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Post by eidolon on Jun 22, 2007 11:22:34 GMT -5
Discuss.
And try to stay on topic.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 24, 2007 22:29:00 GMT -5
I think its fine. Its a normal thing in todays world. In the olden days people use to get married once they started puberty so once they got their sexual drive they got married and had someone to fullfil their urges. Now many people dont get married until their mid twenties or later, some dont at all. Meanwhile they're having sexual urges. Sex is EVERYWHERE today because sex sells. This just makes us more curious and accepting of it. Its a norm in todays society.
I dont think that a 12 year old should be having sex or anything but if you can be mature about it then what the problem?
Aside from the fact that the bible and church say that its bad to have sex before marriage I'd like some reasons from someone who disagree's with me because I dont see the big deal.
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Post by eidolon on Jun 25, 2007 17:38:09 GMT -5
-STDs
-Pregnancy
-HIV/AIDS
There's three reasons right there.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 25, 2007 22:14:15 GMT -5
The only way that we could get rid of std's would be if no one ever had sex before marriage which I grantee you will never ever happen.
You can prevent pregnancy with contraception. If your smart, you'll use both birth control and condoms. The chances of you getting pregnant by using only 1 are very small. On the rare chance that one fails you have a backup so the chances are EXTREMELY slim that you would get pregnant.
You can also get STD's without having sex. It also depends on your definition of sex. I only count intercourse as sex. I don't consider oral sex to be sex because you can't get pregnant and that would mean that you wouldn't be a virgin if you preformed or received oral sex which is crazy weird in my opinion. If you agree with that then theres TONS of STD's that you can get. You can get herpies from kissing. And you can spread herpies from your mouth to genitals and vise versa. And just because you haven't had sex before you got marriage doesn't mean your spouse has so even if you don't have sex before marriage you still could get one.
Now onto aids. You can get that from kissing. If the person you're kissing has aids and has a cut in their mouth or their gums bleed even the slightest bit and you have any cuts or open sores in your mouth you can get aids. Also, aids can be passed down from mother to baby. Does that mean that people with aids shouldn't have kids because of that small chance? I don't think so. I think its ridiculous when people think that.
So, you can almost 100% prevent pregnancy and can get aids and herpies from kissing. Also, if you don't consider oral sex to be sex then you can get all the other std's.
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Post by eidolon on Jun 27, 2007 10:26:22 GMT -5
No birth control is a hundred percent effective.
Why risk the pain and heartache that is bond to come sooner or later with sex before marriage.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 27, 2007 12:47:32 GMT -5
True, its not 100% effective but its extremly close if you use multipul forms.
because its fun. both people in the relationship want it sometimes, why deny yourself and your partner this basic pleasure thats so natural? Because you might not be together for the rest of your life? Well the devorce rate is like 50% so maybe married poeple shouldn't have sex as well in case they aren't together forever.
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Post by FreeStyle08 on Jun 28, 2007 14:21:20 GMT -5
I agree with cassie some but I can also see the rest of the points. But I dont think that a girl or a guy should just sleep with any one becuase they have the urge to do something, but I do think that if the couple is close and they have been close then I think they should talk about it incase something does happen and they girl gets pregnat and stuff.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 28, 2007 16:30:57 GMT -5
Agreed^. I dont like the idea of sleeping around at all. And I think you should discuss it ahead of time. Ya, it might be an akward subject but if you cant handle talking about it you should't be doing it in my opinion.
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Post by EquitationRocker♥ on Jun 28, 2007 20:40:38 GMT -5
I don't neccesarelly aggree or dissagree with sex before marriage. Personally, I am waiting. That is my choice though. Although I 100% don't aggree with sleeping around without a care in the world of what you are doing and what you may have just brought upon yourself, I still think that if you and your partner are truely in love and you are smart about it then hey go on about your business. Do it safely and do it wisely! If you love someone and you have gone over everything that could possibly happen and you understand and you are being safe and smart about it then by all means go ahead. But, if you are those careless people who just do whatever you please without thinking, just don't do it. I really really don't like the young teenagers, girls my age (16)some even younger, getting pregnant. Or the freshman in highsechool sleeping with the seniors, I know a few, well I know of them, around here, it's sad and trampy. These kids are getting STD's and pregnant. And what do the guys do, leave. It's sad what people are doing, we say it is just now happening, but face it, it has happened since the begginning of time, you know it has, but people are just now really bringing it up because the doctors are now really really bringing up the STD's and such.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 28, 2007 22:44:02 GMT -5
I agree, it has always been happening. Seicentist believe Napolion had syphilis, at least I think thats the STD, anyways, they believed he had an STD. And that was a ways back.
I dont like high school people getting pregnant either, it just wercks their lives. But you very likely wont if your safe. And I think you deffinatly need to be prepared for the worst and accept responsibility for any possible negative things that may come out of it.
I dont mide when 16 year olds do it, I think any younger is to young.
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Post by FreeStyle08 on Jun 30, 2007 12:07:16 GMT -5
I know one girl that was pregnate when she was in 8 grade and then got pregnate again in 9th grade.
Now im sorry but that is TO young for any sexual activity I think that when you hit 17 is more of the proper age to be doing this, but not thinking about kids until you are out of school and you have a good supporting Job and you are with someone that will be there to support through thick or thin.
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Post by Cassie on Jun 30, 2007 22:27:19 GMT -5
I agree thats to young to have sex. A girl I work with lost her virginity before she got her period! Odviously way to young.
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Post by Erica on Jul 2, 2007 10:50:51 GMT -5
I know one girl that was pregnate when she was in 8 grade and then got pregnate again in 9th grade. That happened to my friend...dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Post by Cassie on Jul 2, 2007 11:03:17 GMT -5
That just proves how times have changed. In the pst that would hvae been normal and accepted. Now its not. In the past sex before marriage wasn't accepted, now I find that with many people it is.
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Post by FreeStyle08 on Jul 6, 2007 14:30:00 GMT -5
was the girl raped or just doing it because she could?
because if your raped/molested than thats differant but if your doing it just to do it then thats totaly WRONG.
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